web02.fireside.fm Mon, 20 Apr 2026 16:21:22 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) ex.haust - Episodes Tagged with “History” https://exhaust.fireside.fm/tags/history Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0700 Co-hosts Emmet and John plumb the depths of history, culture, and philosophy to understand why it is that despite calamities and rapid change nothing feels possible anymore. Guests include artists, scholars, and thinkers from all over the world. Subscribe to our Patreon to receive 2 extra exclusive episodes a month: https://www.patreon.com/exhaust en-us episodic A podcast about political, cultural, and psychological exhaustion and why nothing feels possible. Emmet Penney Co-hosts Emmet and John plumb the depths of history, culture, and philosophy to understand why it is that despite calamities and rapid change nothing feels possible anymore. Guests include artists, scholars, and thinkers from all over the world. Subscribe to our Patreon to receive 2 extra exclusive episodes a month: https://www.patreon.com/exhaust yes politics, culture, history, philosophy Emmet Penney emmetmpenney@gmail.com Episode 89: The Agony of the New Left ft. Leighton Woodhouse https://exhaust.fireside.fm/89 4478da3f-06eb-4222-ba1c-b003a2d74960 Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0700 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Journalist Leighton Woodhouse joins Emmet to talk about the New Left of the 1960s and the values of the managerial class. They talk about progressive libertarianism, the difference between the old managerial order of the immediate postwar era and the post-70s era, cultural path dependency, the Port Huron statement, and more. 1:21:54 yes Journalist Leighton Woodhouse (https://twitter.com/lwoodhouse) joins Emmet to talk about the New Left of the 1960s and the values of the managerial class. They talk about progressive libertarianism, the difference between the old managerial order of the immediate postwar era and the post-70s era, cultural path dependency, the Port Huron statement, and more. "The Cult of the Individual: The Origins of the Nihilistic Left (https://leightonwoodhouse.substack.com/p/the-cult-of-the-individual?r=u0rd)," by Leighton Woodhouse. Subscribe to our Patreon to get two exclusive episodes plus bonus content every month! (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) Closing Song: Rollin & Tubmlin by RL Burnside (https://rlburnside.bandcamp.com/album/mr-wizard). new left, nihilism, progressivism, woke, wokeness, woke ideology, libertarianism, san francisco, history, american history Journalist Leighton Woodhouse joins Emmet to talk about the New Left of the 1960s and the values of the managerial class. They talk about progressive libertarianism, the difference between the old managerial order of the immediate postwar era and the post-70s era, cultural path dependency, the Port Huron statement, and more.

"The Cult of the Individual: The Origins of the Nihilistic Left," by Leighton Woodhouse.

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Closing Song: Rollin & Tubmlin by RL Burnside.

]]> Journalist Leighton Woodhouse joins Emmet to talk about the New Left of the 1960s and the values of the managerial class. They talk about progressive libertarianism, the difference between the old managerial order of the immediate postwar era and the post-70s era, cultural path dependency, the Port Huron statement, and more.

"The Cult of the Individual: The Origins of the Nihilistic Left," by Leighton Woodhouse.

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Closing Song: Rollin & Tubmlin by RL Burnside.

]]> Episode 82: A time to build, but what? And how? (cross-post with the Ryan Research podcast) https://exhaust.fireside.fm/82 0a45895b-0c58-4287-80de-77809060237e Tue, 15 Mar 2022 23:00:00 -0700 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Recording times got bungled to do travel constraints, but here's an hour-long preview of Emmet's appearance on the Ryan Research podcast. Peter Ryan invited him on to talk about nuclear energy, why nothing feels possible, what happened to the left, financial brain poisoning, and more! 1:06:22 yes Recording times got bungled to do travel constraints, but here's an hour-long preview of Emmet's appearance on the Ryan Research podcast (the whole thing runs two hours). Peter Ryan (https://twitter.com/_PeterRyan) invited him on to talk about nuclear energy, why nothing feels possible, what happened to the left, financial brain poisoning, and more! Follow the Ryan Research podcast to hear the rest when it comes out! (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfRArvBl7O7AuQFtTTKaUCw) Subscribe to our Patreon to get 2 exclusive episodes a month. (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) pipelines, standing rock, nuclear, new left, history, america, energy politics, ireland, fracking Recording times got bungled to do travel constraints, but here's an hour-long preview of Emmet's appearance on the Ryan Research podcast (the whole thing runs two hours). Peter Ryan invited him on to talk about nuclear energy, why nothing feels possible, what happened to the left, financial brain poisoning, and more!

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]]> Recording times got bungled to do travel constraints, but here's an hour-long preview of Emmet's appearance on the Ryan Research podcast (the whole thing runs two hours). Peter Ryan invited him on to talk about nuclear energy, why nothing feels possible, what happened to the left, financial brain poisoning, and more!

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]]> [teaser] Futures Past: On the Relation of Past and Future in Modern History p. I https://exhaust.fireside.fm/p24t 4ef2d337-0874-456a-b7f1-9e96f09168a9 Sun, 06 Mar 2022 15:00:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Emmet and John began their reading of Koselleck's Futures Past. They situate his context, layout his questions and method, and then open the first essay. They discuss the transition into modernity, the nature of historical time, the waning of eschaton, the secularization of the political and thus the future, and medieval eschatological tradition, and way more. 15:36 yes Emmet and John began their reading of Koselleck's Futures Past. They situate his context, layout his questions and method, and then open the first essay. They discuss the transition into modernity, the nature of historical time, the waning of eschaton, the secularization of the political and thus the future, and medieval eschatological tradition, and way more. This is a teaser. To hear the rest and get the rest of our exclusive episodes, become a Patron! (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) history, philosophy, leo strauss, carl schmitt, heidegger, apocalypse, religion, christianity, politics Emmet and John began their reading of Koselleck's Futures Past. They situate his context, layout his questions and method, and then open the first essay. They discuss the transition into modernity, the nature of historical time, the waning of eschaton, the secularization of the political and thus the future, and medieval eschatological tradition, and way more.

This is a teaser. To hear the rest and get the rest of our exclusive episodes, become a Patron!

]]> Emmet and John began their reading of Koselleck's Futures Past. They situate his context, layout his questions and method, and then open the first essay. They discuss the transition into modernity, the nature of historical time, the waning of eschaton, the secularization of the political and thus the future, and medieval eschatological tradition, and way more.

This is a teaser. To hear the rest and get the rest of our exclusive episodes, become a Patron!

]]> Episode 80: Did the Industrial Revolution even happen? ft. John Constable https://exhaust.fireside.fm/80 7435e5d9-4ac6-408c-ba69-cf19a2200a09 Tue, 01 Mar 2022 23:00:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Scholar John Constable joins Emmet to discuss his recent lecture given at the Mont Pelerin Society last year entitled, "Misconceptions of the 'Industrial Revolution': Prospects for Individual Liberty in the Post-Pandemic Era." They discuss the discursive fiction of the "industrial revolution" and its uses, the green energy transition's misguidedness, economics' backwardness, why energy is the key to liberty, and more! 53:41 yes Scholar John Constable joins Emmet to discuss his recent lecture given at the Mont Pelerin Society last year entitled, "Misconceptions of the 'Industrial Revolution': Prospects for Individual Liberty in the Post-Pandemic Era." They discuss the discursive fiction of the "industrial revolution" and its uses, the green energy transition's misguidedness, economics' backwardness, why energy is the key to societal wealth and freedom, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon to get 2 exclusive episodes a month (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust). Closing song: Migos - Walk It Talk It (KEIFERGR33N Remix) (https://www.keifergr33n.com/) energy, wind, solar, green energy, climate change, liberty, freedom, wealth, industrial revolution, marx, history, economics Scholar John Constable joins Emmet to discuss his recent lecture given at the Mont Pelerin Society last year entitled, "Misconceptions of the 'Industrial Revolution': Prospects for Individual Liberty in the Post-Pandemic Era." They discuss the discursive fiction of the "industrial revolution" and its uses, the green energy transition's misguidedness, economics' backwardness, why energy is the key to societal wealth and freedom, and more!

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Closing song: Migos - Walk It Talk It (KEIFERGR33N Remix)

]]> Scholar John Constable joins Emmet to discuss his recent lecture given at the Mont Pelerin Society last year entitled, "Misconceptions of the 'Industrial Revolution': Prospects for Individual Liberty in the Post-Pandemic Era." They discuss the discursive fiction of the "industrial revolution" and its uses, the green energy transition's misguidedness, economics' backwardness, why energy is the key to societal wealth and freedom, and more!

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Closing song: Migos - Walk It Talk It (KEIFERGR33N Remix)

]]> Episode 77: When You Die Online You Die in Real Life ft. Default Friend https://exhaust.fireside.fm/77 5858a6a8-4a1e-49b3-9899-3cf380f6d7e0 Tue, 08 Feb 2022 23:45:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney DF and Emmet had such a good time talking about early internet history they decided to do it again. This time, they're looking at humdog's seminal but half-forgotten essay "pandora's vox." DF and Emmet try to work through the internet as a form, it's incredible liquidity, how physical space has transubstantiated into the internet, things like the Slaves of Gor fandom as a substructure of the internet, what it means that humdog seems to have committed suicide over exactly the kind of relationship she warned about and more! 1:01:52 yes DF and Emmet had such a good time talking about early internet history they decided to do it again. This time, they're looking at humdog's seminal but half-forgotten essay "pandora's vox." DF and Emmet try to work through the internet as a form, it's incredible liquidity, how physical space has transubstantiated into the internet, things like the Slaves of Gor fandom as a substructure of the internet, what it means that humdog seems to have committed suicide over exactly the kind of relationship she warned about and more! "pandora's vox: on community in cyberspace (https://gist.github.com/kolber/2131643)" by humdog. "A Virtual Life. An Actual Death. (https://hplusmagazine.com/2009/09/02/virtual-life-actual-death/)" by Mark Meadows and Peter Ludlow internet, history, slaves of gor, the sims, second life, cyberspace, cyberpunk, digital life, humdog DF and Emmet had such a good time talking about early internet history they decided to do it again. This time, they're looking at humdog's seminal but half-forgotten essay "pandora's vox." DF and Emmet try to work through the internet as a form, it's incredible liquidity, how physical space has transubstantiated into the internet, things like the Slaves of Gor fandom as a substructure of the internet, what it means that humdog seems to have committed suicide over exactly the kind of relationship she warned about and more!

"pandora's vox: on community in cyberspace" by humdog.
"A Virtual Life. An Actual Death." by Mark Meadows and Peter Ludlow

]]> DF and Emmet had such a good time talking about early internet history they decided to do it again. This time, they're looking at humdog's seminal but half-forgotten essay "pandora's vox." DF and Emmet try to work through the internet as a form, it's incredible liquidity, how physical space has transubstantiated into the internet, things like the Slaves of Gor fandom as a substructure of the internet, what it means that humdog seems to have committed suicide over exactly the kind of relationship she warned about and more!

"pandora's vox: on community in cyberspace" by humdog.
"A Virtual Life. An Actual Death." by Mark Meadows and Peter Ludlow

]]> Episode 76: A Rape in Cyberspace ft. Default Friend https://exhaust.fireside.fm/76 5b9a3cac-3efa-4b55-8b25-1a616f3f116d Tue, 01 Feb 2022 20:00:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Default Friend returns to talk with Emmet about Julian Dibbel's famous essay, A Rape in Cybserpace, which presaged our digital social experience back in 1993. DF and Emmet talk about etiquette, digital governance, the weirdness of online life, the "distributed self," what it would mean to take the internet seriously, and more! 1:02:20 yes Default Friend (https://twitter.com/default_friend) returns to talk with Emmet about Julian Dibbel's famous essay, A Rape in Cybserpace (http://www.juliandibbell.com/texts/bungle_vv.html), which presaged our digital social experience back in 1993. DF and Emmet talk about etiquette, digital governance, the weirdness of online life, the "distributed self," what it would mean to take the internet seriously, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon to get two exclusive episodes a month! (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) Closing Song: The End of Love by Wimeanancas Cambodian Band. (https://littleaxerecords.bandcamp.com/album/wimeanacas-cambodian-band) rape, cancel culture, metoo, second life, internet culture, culture, internet, history, cyberpunk, 90s, metaverse Default Friend returns to talk with Emmet about Julian Dibbel's famous essay, A Rape in Cybserpace, which presaged our digital social experience back in 1993. DF and Emmet talk about etiquette, digital governance, the weirdness of online life, the "distributed self," what it would mean to take the internet seriously, and more!

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Closing Song: The End of Love by Wimeanancas Cambodian Band.

]]> Default Friend returns to talk with Emmet about Julian Dibbel's famous essay, A Rape in Cybserpace, which presaged our digital social experience back in 1993. DF and Emmet talk about etiquette, digital governance, the weirdness of online life, the "distributed self," what it would mean to take the internet seriously, and more!

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Closing Song: The End of Love by Wimeanancas Cambodian Band.

]]> [teaser] The True and Only Heaven 9: The Spiritual Discipline Against Resentment https://exhaust.fireside.fm/p21t 8cef38e6-dfa5-47df-bc2c-c38445366e2c Sun, 16 Jan 2022 20:45:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Emmet and John take on the ideas of Reinhold Niebuhr and his impact on neocons and MLK. Then they look at Lasch's interpretation of MLK's intellectual life and political career. They compare the Southern and Northern Civil Rights campaigns and contemplate the deadlock, in part created by King himself, left in his wake. They close by discussing resentment and its politics. 9:45 yes Emmet and John take on the ideas of Reinhold Niebuhr and his impact on neocons and MLK. Then they look at Lasch's interpretation of MLK's intellectual life and political career. They compare the Southern and Northern Civil Rights campaigns and contemplate the deadlock, in part created by King himself, left in his wake. They close by discussing resentment and its politics. This is a teaser, subscribe to the Patreon to hear the rest! (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) mlk, woke, wokeness, blm, american history, christianity, spirituality, civil rights, history, whiteness Emmet and John take on the ideas of Reinhold Niebuhr and his impact on neocons and MLK. Then they look at Lasch's interpretation of MLK's intellectual life and political career. They compare the Southern and Northern Civil Rights campaigns and contemplate the deadlock, in part created by King himself, left in his wake. They close by discussing resentment and its politics.

This is a teaser, subscribe to the Patreon to hear the rest!

]]> Emmet and John take on the ideas of Reinhold Niebuhr and his impact on neocons and MLK. Then they look at Lasch's interpretation of MLK's intellectual life and political career. They compare the Southern and Northern Civil Rights campaigns and contemplate the deadlock, in part created by King himself, left in his wake. They close by discussing resentment and its politics.

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]]> Episode 73: American Canon: Joan Didion's "Insider Baseball" ft. Luke Thompson https://exhaust.fireside.fm/73 536a1148-e342-47f7-835f-9faf4c234a3b Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:00:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Luke Thompson returns to talk with Emmet about Joan Didion, who recently passed. They focus on her essay "Insider Baseball," her coverage of the 1988 presidential primary season, and discuss the nature of American presidential campaigns, the campaign press, the nature of Didion's insights, what made 2016 so weird, and more! 1:15:18 yes Luke Thompson (https://twitter.com/ltthompso) returns to talk with Emmet about Joan Didion, who recently passed. They focus on her essay "Insider Baseball," her coverage of the 1988 presidential primary season, and discuss the nature of American presidential campaigns, the campaign press, the nature of Didion's insights, what made 2016 so weird, and more! Insider Baseball by Joan Didion (https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1988/10/27/insider-baseball/). Closing Song: "Journey to the Darkened Empires" by Forlorn Kingdom (https://forlornkingdom.bandcamp.com/album/walking-the-paths-of-old). joan didion, didion, david foster wallace, literature, american literature, nonfiction, writers, politics, campaign, history, american history Luke Thompson returns to talk with Emmet about Joan Didion, who recently passed. They focus on her essay "Insider Baseball," her coverage of the 1988 presidential primary season, and discuss the nature of American presidential campaigns, the campaign press, the nature of Didion's insights, what made 2016 so weird, and more!

Insider Baseball by Joan Didion.

Closing Song: "Journey to the Darkened Empires" by Forlorn Kingdom.

]]> Luke Thompson returns to talk with Emmet about Joan Didion, who recently passed. They focus on her essay "Insider Baseball," her coverage of the 1988 presidential primary season, and discuss the nature of American presidential campaigns, the campaign press, the nature of Didion's insights, what made 2016 so weird, and more!

Insider Baseball by Joan Didion.

Closing Song: "Journey to the Darkened Empires" by Forlorn Kingdom.

]]> Episode 72: The Art of Forgetting https://exhaust.fireside.fm/72 299e4b1b-82fc-40f0-a2d2-6bc40b49fa8b Wed, 05 Jan 2022 14:00:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Emmet and Mike discuss medieval techniques of memory and forgetting. They discuss Cornelius Agrippa's assault on those techniques as an assault on the corrupted scholastic world. In Agrippa's thought we see the germs of modernity. The discuss opens up into a contemplation of ancient science and tech, the propaganda of the Enlightenment, the disciplining of the mind and the gaze, recovering tradition, and more. 59:05 yes Emmet and Mike discuss medieval techniques of memory and forgetting. They discuss Cornelius Agrippa's assault on those techniques as an assault on the corrupted scholastic world. In Agrippa's thought we see the germs of modernity. The discuss opens up into a contemplation of ancient science and tech, the propaganda of the Enlightenment, the disciplining of the mind and the gaze, recovering tradition, and more. Feel free to email or DM us for pdfs of the sources we used for this episode. Subscribe to our Patreon to get two exclusive episodes a month. (https://www.patreon.com/posts/60648716) Closing song: Habit Necessity by TAD. middle ages, medieval, science, scholasticism, aquinas, agrippa, modernity, islam, christianity, memory, amnesia, forgetting, history Emmet and Mike discuss medieval techniques of memory and forgetting. They discuss Cornelius Agrippa's assault on those techniques as an assault on the corrupted scholastic world. In Agrippa's thought we see the germs of modernity. The discuss opens up into a contemplation of ancient science and tech, the propaganda of the Enlightenment, the disciplining of the mind and the gaze, recovering tradition, and more.

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Closing song: Habit Necessity by TAD.

]]> Emmet and Mike discuss medieval techniques of memory and forgetting. They discuss Cornelius Agrippa's assault on those techniques as an assault on the corrupted scholastic world. In Agrippa's thought we see the germs of modernity. The discuss opens up into a contemplation of ancient science and tech, the propaganda of the Enlightenment, the disciplining of the mind and the gaze, recovering tradition, and more.

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Closing song: Habit Necessity by TAD.

]]> Episode 70: Where Are We Now?: Thinking with Agamben https://exhaust.fireside.fm/70 1c58349e-4ec2-4e4c-88c8-22929e14a09c Tue, 21 Dec 2021 23:45:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Emmet and Mike talk about Agamben's book, Where Are We Now?: The Epidemic as Politics, and reflect on life since the pandemic. They discuss Carl Schmitt, security theater, anti-social civics, the cultic gnosticism of scientific faith, the need for physical practices and spiritual mentors, bare life, their own intellectual failings during the pandemic, and more. 1:06:24 yes Emmet and Mike talk about Agamben's book, Where Are We Now?: The Epidemic as Politics, and reflect on life since the pandemic. They discuss Carl Schmitt, security theater, anti-social civics, the cultic gnosticism of scientific faith, the need for physical practices and spiritual mentors, bare life, their own intellectual failings during the pandemic, and more. Subscribe to the Patreon to get two exclusive episodes a month! (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) Check out Emmet's new podcast and newsletter, Nuclear Barbarians (https://nuclearbarians.substack.com/). Closing Song: Leprosy - Death. (https://death.bandcamp.com/album/leprosy-reissue) covid, bill gates, agamben, carl schmitt, fear, security, politics, history, medicine, science, scientism, law, constitution Emmet and Mike talk about Agamben's book, Where Are We Now?: The Epidemic as Politics, and reflect on life since the pandemic. They discuss Carl Schmitt, security theater, anti-social civics, the cultic gnosticism of scientific faith, the need for physical practices and spiritual mentors, bare life, their own intellectual failings during the pandemic, and more.

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Closing Song: Leprosy - Death.

]]> Emmet and Mike talk about Agamben's book, Where Are We Now?: The Epidemic as Politics, and reflect on life since the pandemic. They discuss Carl Schmitt, security theater, anti-social civics, the cultic gnosticism of scientific faith, the need for physical practices and spiritual mentors, bare life, their own intellectual failings during the pandemic, and more.

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Closing Song: Leprosy - Death.

]]> Episode 66: Guns, Coal, and Power: Three Takes on Human Development and the Illusion of Progress https://exhaust.fireside.fm/66 c5a279f9-5569-41cb-9abb-b0a5f4dd7611 Tue, 23 Nov 2021 23:00:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Canada Mike and Emmet take a look at three pieces to consider different lenses for human development. The first is an essay on Engels by Wolfgang Streeck, the second is a lecture on thermoeconomics by John Constable, and the third is an overview of arguments for human evolution by Michael E. Mann. Emmet and Mike touch on the Meiji restoration, why we should read old thinkers, British coal, why Steven Pinker sucks, what kind of revolution was the Industrial Revolution, civilizational skillsets, and more! 1:12:08 yes Canada Mike and Emmet take a look at three pieces to consider different lenses for human development. The first is an essay on Engels by Wolfgang Streeck (https://pure.mpg.de/rest/items/item_3239575/component/file_3329111/content), the second is a lecture on thermoeconomics by John Constable (http://www.libellus.co.uk/uploads/jc_energy_entropy_wealth_2016.pdf), and the third is an overview of arguments for human evolution by Michael E. Mann (https://www.jstor.org/stable/24717534). Emmet and Mike touch on the Meiji restoration, why we should read old thinkers, British coal, why Steven Pinker sucks, what kind of revolution was the Industrial Revolution, civilizational skillsets, and more! Subscribe to our Patreon to get two exclusive episodes a month! (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) Closing Song: Kids See Ghost - Feel the Love (KEIFERGR33N) (https://www.keifergr33n.com/music) Special Guest: Mike. steven pinker, wolfgang streeck, engels, japan, meiji, britain, coal, history, thermoeconomics, progress, america, WWII, navy Canada Mike and Emmet take a look at three pieces to consider different lenses for human development. The first is an essay on Engels by Wolfgang Streeck, the second is a lecture on thermoeconomics by John Constable, and the third is an overview of arguments for human evolution by Michael E. Mann. Emmet and Mike touch on the Meiji restoration, why we should read old thinkers, British coal, why Steven Pinker sucks, what kind of revolution was the Industrial Revolution, civilizational skillsets, and more!

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Closing Song: Kids See Ghost - Feel the Love (KEIFERGR33N)

Special Guest: Mike.

]]> Canada Mike and Emmet take a look at three pieces to consider different lenses for human development. The first is an essay on Engels by Wolfgang Streeck, the second is a lecture on thermoeconomics by John Constable, and the third is an overview of arguments for human evolution by Michael E. Mann. Emmet and Mike touch on the Meiji restoration, why we should read old thinkers, British coal, why Steven Pinker sucks, what kind of revolution was the Industrial Revolution, civilizational skillsets, and more!

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Closing Song: Kids See Ghost - Feel the Love (KEIFERGR33N)

Special Guest: Mike.

]]> Episode 59: Political Ossification ft. Luke Thompson https://exhaust.fireside.fm/59 92e4c146-0432-4123-84b0-db9a6f62d1a0 Tue, 05 Oct 2021 20:00:00 -0700 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Political consultant and podcaster Luke Thompson joins Emmet to talk through different conceptions of political ossification. They talk through realignment theory, conceptions of political time, and, of course, why nothing feels possible. 1:15:40 yes Political consultant and podcaster Luke Thompson (https://twitter.com/ltthompso) joins Emmet to talk through the problem of political ossification. They talk through realignment theory, conceptions of political time, how party coalitions have changed over time, the shifting nature of American political institutions, and, of course, why nothing feels possible. Check out Luke's podcast with Jay Cost, Constitutionally Speaking (https://www.nationalreview.com/podcasts/constitutionally-speaking/). Subscribe to our Patreon to get two exclusive episodes a month! Closing Song: "Talk Anyway" by Found Footage (https://foundfootageokc.bandcamp.com/). politics, conservatism, liberalism, history, america, american history Political consultant and podcaster Luke Thompson joins Emmet to talk through the problem of political ossification. They talk through realignment theory, conceptions of political time, how party coalitions have changed over time, the shifting nature of American political institutions, and, of course, why nothing feels possible.

Check out Luke's podcast with Jay Cost, Constitutionally Speaking.

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Closing Song: "Talk Anyway" by Found Footage.

]]> Political consultant and podcaster Luke Thompson joins Emmet to talk through the problem of political ossification. They talk through realignment theory, conceptions of political time, how party coalitions have changed over time, the shifting nature of American political institutions, and, of course, why nothing feels possible.

Check out Luke's podcast with Jay Cost, Constitutionally Speaking.

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Closing Song: "Talk Anyway" by Found Footage.

]]> Episode 57: Into the Fairy Castle ft. Sam Biagetti https://exhaust.fireside.fm/57 20dfabc2-bf88-4659-b4e7-4df513e547c6 Tue, 21 Sep 2021 20:00:00 -0700 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Emmet sits down with historian, podcaster, and writer Sam Biagetti to talk about his latest piece for American Affairs, "Into the Fairy Castle: The Persistence of Victorian Liberalism." They about Gilbert and Sullivan, Borgen, the downfall of the Bernie movement, meritocracy and more. 58:48 yes Emmet sits down with historian, podcaster, and writer Sam Biagetti to talk about his latest piece for American Affairs, "Into the Fairy Castle: The Persistence of Victorian Liberalism." They about Gilbert and Sullivan, Borgen, the downfall of the Bernie movement, meritocracy and more. Subscribe to Sam's podcast here (https://www.patreon.com/user?u=5530632). "Into the Fairy Castle: The Persistence of Victorian Liberalism" by Sam Biagetti (Into the Fairy Castle: The Persistence of Victorian Liberalism). Our Patreon. (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) Closing Song: Rusty Cage by Soundgarden (Live at the Omaha Civic Auditorium Music Hall, 1992) borgen, house of cards, liberalism, liberals, politics, bernie, aoc, met gala, victorian history, politics, history Emmet sits down with historian, podcaster, and writer Sam Biagetti to talk about his latest piece for American Affairs, "Into the Fairy Castle: The Persistence of Victorian Liberalism." They about Gilbert and Sullivan, Borgen, the downfall of the Bernie movement, meritocracy and more.

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["Into the Fairy Castle: The Persistence of Victorian Liberalism" by Sam Biagetti](Into the Fairy Castle: The Persistence of Victorian Liberalism).

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Closing Song: Rusty Cage by Soundgarden (Live at the Omaha Civic Auditorium Music Hall, 1992)

]]> Emmet sits down with historian, podcaster, and writer Sam Biagetti to talk about his latest piece for American Affairs, "Into the Fairy Castle: The Persistence of Victorian Liberalism." They about Gilbert and Sullivan, Borgen, the downfall of the Bernie movement, meritocracy and more.

Subscribe to Sam's podcast here.

["Into the Fairy Castle: The Persistence of Victorian Liberalism" by Sam Biagetti](Into the Fairy Castle: The Persistence of Victorian Liberalism).

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Closing Song: Rusty Cage by Soundgarden (Live at the Omaha Civic Auditorium Music Hall, 1992)

]]> Episode 53: The Lasch Files: The True and Only Heaven pt. I https://exhaust.fireside.fm/53 bc877a7f-ec32-4ad3-ad88-e96e8ede169c Tue, 24 Aug 2021 20:15:00 -0700 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Emmet and John begin their series on Lasch's book The True and Only Heaven: Progress and Its Critics." 1:19:00 yes Emmet and John begin their series on Lasch's book The True and Only Heaven: Progress and Its Critics." They lay out the general premise, debate whether or not Lasch was a degrowther, reflect on the impact of the 70s energy crisis, and more! Subscribe to the Patreon for 2 exclusive episodes a month. (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) We now have merch (http://tee.pub/lic/k8eEk8bR5-8). Song: "Playpen of Dissent" by Stuck (https://stuckchi.bandcamp.com/album/content-that-makes-you-feel-good). christopher lasch, cold war, leftism, chesa boudin, gop, progressivism, progress, history, republican Emmet and John begin their series on Lasch's book The True and Only Heaven: Progress and Its Critics." They lay out the general premise, debate whether or not Lasch was a degrowther, reflect on the impact of the 70s energy crisis, and more!

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Song: "Playpen of Dissent" by Stuck.

]]> Episode 47: How Did We Get Here? Ft. Sterling Bartlett https://exhaust.fireside.fm/47 f7cfc245-39d9-4605-9393-7df27daa1387 Tue, 13 Jul 2021 23:00:00 -0700 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Emmet sits down with comic book artist Sterling Bartlett to talk about his comics "How Did We Get Here?" and "Kali, Yuga, Eschaton." 57:19 yes Emmet sits down with comic book artist Sterling Bartlett to talk about his comics "How Did We Get Here?" and "Kali, Yuga, Eschaton." They talk about how recycling is a scam, the late-period Matisse to moralizing infographic pipeline, the death of boredom, the age of the filthy casual., and more! Check out Sterling's work: https://www.sterlingbartlett.com/ Join our Patreon for two exclusive episodes a month! (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) Twitter. (https://twitter.com/ex_haustpodcast) Bibliography. (https://exhaust.fireside.fm/articles/ep47bib) Closing Song: "A Three Year Old Could Do That" by the U-Men. (https://umen.bandcamp.com) art, matisse, spawn, image comics, william burroughs, flat design, theory, history, recycling Emmet sits down with comic book artist Sterling Bartlett to talk about his comics "How Did We Get Here?" and "Kali, Yuga, Eschaton." They talk about how recycling is a scam, the late-period Matisse to moralizing infographic pipeline, the death of boredom, the age of the filthy casual., and more!

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Closing Song: "A Three Year Old Could Do That" by the U-Men.

]]> Emmet sits down with comic book artist Sterling Bartlett to talk about his comics "How Did We Get Here?" and "Kali, Yuga, Eschaton." They talk about how recycling is a scam, the late-period Matisse to moralizing infographic pipeline, the death of boredom, the age of the filthy casual., and more!

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Closing Song: "A Three Year Old Could Do That" by the U-Men.

]]> Episode 43: American Hardball: Scorsese's GoodFellas and McKay's Vice https://exhaust.fireside.fm/43 2273bb44-4c33-40c4-867b-35bc40cfa2fb Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:00:00 -0700 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Emmet and John talk about America's delight in self-serving, cruel narcissists via the movies Vice and GoodFellas in addition to an essay by Jim Shepard. 1:02:43 yes Emmet and John talk about America's delight in self-serving, cruel narcissists via the movies Vice and GoodFellas in addition to an essay by Jim Shepard. The conversation ranges from the political culture during the Iraq War, the uncanny similarities between Dick Cheney and Henry Hill, what it means for the American government to be normatively strong, but administratively weak, and more! "No Regrets: Goodfellas and American Hardball (https://believermag.com/no-regrets-goodfellas-and-american-hardball/)" by Jim Shepard. Subscribe to our Patreon for 2 exclusive episodes a month (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust)! Bibliography (https://exhaust.fireside.fm/articles/ep43bib). Twitter. Closing Song: "Dallas Beltway" by Chat Pile (https://chatpile.bandcamp.com/album/remove-your-skin-please). iraq war, dick cheney, martin scorsese, goodfellas, the big short, wall street, american politics, politics, history, culture, film Emmet and John talk about America's delight in self-serving, cruel narcissists via the movies Vice and GoodFellas in addition to an essay by Jim Shepard. The conversation ranges from the political culture during the Iraq War, the uncanny similarities between Dick Cheney and Henry Hill, what it means for the American government to be normatively strong, but administratively weak, and more!

"No Regrets: Goodfellas and American Hardball" by Jim Shepard.

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Closing Song: "Dallas Beltway" by Chat Pile.

]]> Emmet and John talk about America's delight in self-serving, cruel narcissists via the movies Vice and GoodFellas in addition to an essay by Jim Shepard. The conversation ranges from the political culture during the Iraq War, the uncanny similarities between Dick Cheney and Henry Hill, what it means for the American government to be normatively strong, but administratively weak, and more!

"No Regrets: Goodfellas and American Hardball" by Jim Shepard.

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Closing Song: "Dallas Beltway" by Chat Pile.

]]> Episode 42: "It All Ends in Pizza": Brazilianization and Life in the Undeveloping World ft. Alex Hochuli https://exhaust.fireside.fm/42 f8be6f8c-8d02-4b25-b97a-c90138e69a7a Tue, 08 Jun 2021 20:00:00 -0700 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Writer and co-host of the Aufhebungabunga podcast Alex Hochuli joins Emmet and John to talk about his latest article in American Affairs: "The Brazilianization of the World." 1:04:51 yes Writer and co-host of the Aufhebungabunga podcast (https://aufhebungabunga.podbean.com/) Alex Hochuli (https://twitter.com/Alex__1789)joins Emmet and John to talk about his latest article in American Affairs: "The Brazilianization of the World." They talk about Alex's article, the alleged end of the "End of History," anti-politics, and more! "The Brazilianization of the World (https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2021/05/the-brazilianization-of-the-world/)" by Alex Hochuli. Pre-order Aufhebungabunga's book here (https://www.johnhuntpublishing.com/zer0-books/our-books/end-end-history). Bibliography (https://exhaust.fireside.fm/articles/ep42bib). Twitter (https://twitter.com/ex_haustpodcast). Subscribe to our Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) for two exclusive episodes a month! Closing Song: "Black Sea" by The Farmers (https://dupagecountyhardcore.bandcamp.com/album/black-sea-b-w-devil). Photo by Gustavo Leighton on Unsplash. neoliberalism, history, zizek, brazil, bolsonaro, lula, socialism, modernism, development Writer and co-host of the Aufhebungabunga podcast Alex Hochuli joins Emmet and John to talk about his latest article in American Affairs: "The Brazilianization of the World." They talk about Alex's article, the alleged end of the "End of History," anti-politics, and more!

"The Brazilianization of the World" by Alex Hochuli.

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Closing Song: "Black Sea" by The Farmers.

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]]> Writer and co-host of the Aufhebungabunga podcast Alex Hochuli joins Emmet and John to talk about his latest article in American Affairs: "The Brazilianization of the World." They talk about Alex's article, the alleged end of the "End of History," anti-politics, and more!

"The Brazilianization of the World" by Alex Hochuli.

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Closing Song: "Black Sea" by The Farmers.

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]]> Episode 36: I Went Down to the Piraeus Yesterday with Robert Downey Jr.: Watching RDJ's Cocaine '92 Election Doc ft. Josh Bregman https://exhaust.fireside.fm/36 56174f75-6f8e-49de-98bb-49eb3ec51272 Tue, 27 Apr 2021 23:45:00 -0700 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Token Gen-Xer Josh Bregman joins Emmet to discuss Robert Downey Jr.'s documentary about the '92 election, The Last Party. They discuss what has and hasn't changed in the last thirty years. 1:37:50 yes Token Gen-Xer Josh Bregman joins Emmet to discuss Robert Downey Jr.'s documentary about the '92 election, The Last Party (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApvPKrHA37g). They discuss the NGO Industrial Complex, why the culture war is built to be endless, the handoff from the New Left to Gen X, and how RDJ accidentally made Twitter: The Movie in 1992. Subscribe to our Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/exhaust) for two extra exclusive episodes a month. Bibliography (https://exhaust.fireside.fm/articles/ep36bib). Twitter (https://twitter.com/ex_haustpodcast). Closing Song: System of a Down - Lost in Hollywood x Young Thug - Power (KEIFERGR33N Remix) (https://www.keifergr33n.com/music) clinton, bill clinton, democratic party, pat buchanan, robert downey jr, rdj, politics, american politics, history, culture, oliver stone, mike ruppert, hollywood, george bush Token Gen-Xer Josh Bregman joins Emmet to discuss Robert Downey Jr.'s documentary about the '92 election, The Last Party. They discuss the NGO Industrial Complex, why the culture war is built to be endless, the handoff from the New Left to Gen X, and how RDJ accidentally made Twitter: The Movie in 1992.

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Closing Song: System of a Down - Lost in Hollywood x Young Thug - Power (KEIFERGR33N Remix)

]]> Token Gen-Xer Josh Bregman joins Emmet to discuss Robert Downey Jr.'s documentary about the '92 election, The Last Party. They discuss the NGO Industrial Complex, why the culture war is built to be endless, the handoff from the New Left to Gen X, and how RDJ accidentally made Twitter: The Movie in 1992.

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Closing Song: System of a Down - Lost in Hollywood x Young Thug - Power (KEIFERGR33N Remix)

]]> Episode 13: American Canon: Ralph Waldo Emerson's "Self-Reliance" https://exhaust.fireside.fm/13 2eda25f4-4251-429b-b74a-668f6edcfb84 Tue, 24 Nov 2020 20:45:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney We begin our American Canon series with Emerson's famous essay, "Self-Reliance." 52:37 yes We've decided to begin a running series dedicated to the American Canon. We open the episode by talking about why we're doing this before launching into a discussion of our first entry in the series: Emerson's "Self-Reliance." Kojeve's animalization makes a come, Emerson's eternal present, we discuss the roots of American iconoclasm, John explains how Southern aristocrats saw themselves as the descendents of the combatants at the Battle of Hastings, and much, much more. This one was really fun to record and we look forward to expanding the series as time rolls on. Bibliography here (https://exhaust.fireside.fm/articles/epthirteenbib). Complaints Department: exhaust.podcast [at] gmail [dot] com. Cover image: “Shroon Mountain, Adirondacks,” oil painting by Thomas Cole, 1838, a painter of the Hudson River school; in the Cleveland Museum of Art. emerson, american canon, self-reliance, religion, culture, history, theology We've decided to begin a running series dedicated to the American Canon. We open the episode by talking about why we're doing this before launching into a discussion of our first entry in the series: Emerson's "Self-Reliance." Kojeve's animalization makes a come, Emerson's eternal present, we discuss the roots of American iconoclasm, John explains how Southern aristocrats saw themselves as the descendents of the combatants at the Battle of Hastings, and much, much more. This one was really fun to record and we look forward to expanding the series as time rolls on.

Bibliography here.

Complaints Department: exhaust.podcast [at] gmail [dot] com.

Cover image: “Shroon Mountain, Adirondacks,” oil painting by Thomas Cole, 1838, a painter of the Hudson River school; in the Cleveland Museum of Art.

]]> We've decided to begin a running series dedicated to the American Canon. We open the episode by talking about why we're doing this before launching into a discussion of our first entry in the series: Emerson's "Self-Reliance." Kojeve's animalization makes a come, Emerson's eternal present, we discuss the roots of American iconoclasm, John explains how Southern aristocrats saw themselves as the descendents of the combatants at the Battle of Hastings, and much, much more. This one was really fun to record and we look forward to expanding the series as time rolls on.

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Complaints Department: exhaust.podcast [at] gmail [dot] com.

Cover image: “Shroon Mountain, Adirondacks,” oil painting by Thomas Cole, 1838, a painter of the Hudson River school; in the Cleveland Museum of Art.

]]> Episode 12: The Lasch Files: Revolt of the Elites Pt. IV: Black Bloc Patrick Bateman Ft. Geoff Shullenberger https://exhaust.fireside.fm/12 b2b67b21-5c51-4ba0-96e9-36791950277b Tue, 17 Nov 2020 20:45:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney To conclude our series on Lasch's Revolt of the Elites, we talk to Geoff Shullenberger about his piece on Lasch's book for Wesley Yang's Correspondence Society. 1:02:44 yes To conclude our series on Lasch's Revolt of the Elites, we talk to Geoff Shullenberger about his piece on Lasch's book for Wesley Yang's Correspondence Society. We link the 2020 riots to the rich kids of the 1960s New Left, why Lasch's nostalgia for the 19th century yellow journalism doesn't make sense today, and why it is that the elites are not longer seceding as they were in Lasch's 90's, but in open revolt in the boardroom and on the street. Read his piece here (https://www.patreon.com/wesleyyang). Bibliography here. (https://exhaust.fireside.fm/articles/eptwelvebib) Complaints Department: ex.haustpodcast [at] gmail [dot] com. Special Guest: Geoff Shullenberger . lasch, riots, new left, weather underground, 2020 riots, politics, history To conclude our series on Lasch's Revolt of the Elites, we talk to Geoff Shullenberger about his piece on Lasch's book for Wesley Yang's Correspondence Society. We link the 2020 riots to the rich kids of the 1960s New Left, why Lasch's nostalgia for the 19th century yellow journalism doesn't make sense today, and why it is that the elites are not longer seceding as they were in Lasch's 90's, but in open revolt in the boardroom and on the street.

Read his piece here.

Bibliography here.

Complaints Department: ex.haustpodcast [at] gmail [dot] com.

Special Guest: Geoff Shullenberger .

]]> To conclude our series on Lasch's Revolt of the Elites, we talk to Geoff Shullenberger about his piece on Lasch's book for Wesley Yang's Correspondence Society. We link the 2020 riots to the rich kids of the 1960s New Left, why Lasch's nostalgia for the 19th century yellow journalism doesn't make sense today, and why it is that the elites are not longer seceding as they were in Lasch's 90's, but in open revolt in the boardroom and on the street.

Read his piece here.

Bibliography here.

Complaints Department: ex.haustpodcast [at] gmail [dot] com.

Special Guest: Geoff Shullenberger .

]]> Episode 10: Putting the Neocon in Neoconfuscianism: Conservative Responses to East Asia's Rise ft. Jennifer Miller https://exhaust.fireside.fm/10 a381fefc-8c99-4fde-be56-a356a1f6f543 Tue, 03 Nov 2020 20:45:00 -0800 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Historian Jennifer Miller joins Emmet and John to talk about two papers she's written on conservative responses to the rise of East Asia in the latter part of the Cold War. 1:09:58 yes Historian Jennifer Miller (https://twitter.com/historianjennie) joins us to talk about two papers she's written on conservative responses to the rise of East Asia in the latter part of the Cold War. We get into the nitty gritty about international reactionary currents, ahistory in neoconservative thought, overlaps between neocons and Christopher Lasch, and a whole lot else! We were delighted to have her and hope to do so again. The two papers we discuss: “Let’s Not be Laughed at Anymore: Donald Trump and Japan from the 1980s to the Present (https://brill.com/view/journals/jaer/25/2/article-p138_138.xml)” "Neoconservatives and Neo-Confucians: East Asian Growth and the Celebration of Tradition (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/modern-intellectual-history/article/neoconservatives-and-neoconfucians-east-asian-growth-and-the-celebration-of-tradition/E252CF331F5BF8DC4179E4F481EA4E0C)" Check out Jennifer's book: Cold War Democracy: The United States and Japan (https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674976344). Bibliography here. (https://exhaust.fireside.fm/articles/eptenbib) Remember: Sci-Hub is your friend. Special Guest: Jennifer Miller. east asia, conservative, japan, south korea, history, foreign relations, protestantism, american history Historian Jennifer Miller joins us to talk about two papers she's written on conservative responses to the rise of East Asia in the latter part of the Cold War. We get into the nitty gritty about international reactionary currents, ahistory in neoconservative thought, overlaps between neocons and Christopher Lasch, and a whole lot else! We were delighted to have her and hope to do so again.

The two papers we discuss:

“Let’s Not be Laughed at Anymore: Donald Trump and Japan from the 1980s to the Present”

"Neoconservatives and Neo-Confucians: East Asian Growth and the Celebration of Tradition"

Check out Jennifer's book: Cold War Democracy: The United States and Japan.

Bibliography here.

Remember: Sci-Hub is your friend.

Special Guest: Jennifer Miller.

]]> Historian Jennifer Miller joins us to talk about two papers she's written on conservative responses to the rise of East Asia in the latter part of the Cold War. We get into the nitty gritty about international reactionary currents, ahistory in neoconservative thought, overlaps between neocons and Christopher Lasch, and a whole lot else! We were delighted to have her and hope to do so again.

The two papers we discuss:

“Let’s Not be Laughed at Anymore: Donald Trump and Japan from the 1980s to the Present”

"Neoconservatives and Neo-Confucians: East Asian Growth and the Celebration of Tradition"

Check out Jennifer's book: Cold War Democracy: The United States and Japan.

Bibliography here.

Remember: Sci-Hub is your friend.

Special Guest: Jennifer Miller.

]]> Episode 1: Ground Zero https://exhaust.fireside.fm/1 870ac243-4886-4488-9f5f-93d7768c263c Sun, 06 Sep 2020 14:45:00 -0700 Emmet Penney full Emmet Penney Emmet and John introduce themselves and the podcast. 1:09:25 yes We discuss the major themes of the podcast and what brought us to create it. politics, culture, history, covid19, exhaustion We discuss the major themes of the podcast and what brought us to create it.

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